Episode 253: Slay the Bully with Rebecca Zung

Feb 8, 2024

This week’s episode explores the research behind narcissism and how it should inform the way victims should approach negotiation with them. My guest is none other than Rebecca Zung, a top 1 percent attorney in the nation and a globally recognized expert in narcissism negotiation. With two incredible books under her belt, including her new book "Slay the Bully: How to Negotiate with a Narcissist and Win," and the acclaimed "Negotiate Like You Matter: The Surefire Way to Set Up and Win," Rebecca's insights are both profound and practical.

This episode is packed with invaluable advice and strategies to empower you in dealing with narcissistic personalities.  Tune in and prepare to SLAY the bully and negotiate like you matter!

Featured topics:

• Rebecca talks about communication principles and strategies found in her book  SLAY the Bully (3:05)
• We discuss how high-conflict personalities are formed, particularly with a focus on what the research has to say (7:28)
• You cannot communicate with a narcissistic person like you can a rational or reasonable person (14:35)
• What causes the trauma bond between a person and a narcissistic partner (17:45)
• How to approach a narcissist or high-conflict person when a trauma bond exists and the SLAY acronym: Strategy, Leverage, Anticipate, and You (24:59)
• A reminder to never JADE: Justify, Argue, Defend, or Explain (28:00)

Learn more about Rebecca Zung:
Rebecca Zung is one of the Top 1% of attorneys in the nation, having been recognized by U.S. News as one of the Best Lawyers in America.  She’s also a globally recognized Narcissism Negotiation Expert (more than 40 MILLION VIEWS on YouTube in 3 years) and the creator of the SLAY® negotiation method.  She is the author of TWO bestselling books, Negotiate Like You M.A.T.T.E.R.:  The Sure Fire Method to Step Up and Win (foreword by Robert Shapiro) and Breaking Free: A Step-by-Step Divorce Guide for Achieving Emotional, Physical, and Spiritual Freedom. 

Rebecca’s  perspectives are in high demand by television and print outlets, as she has been featured in or on Extra, Forbes, Huffington Post, Newsweek, Time, Dr. Drew, Ed Mylett’s Podcast among others.   Rebecca’s podcast, Negotiate Your Best Life is ranked in the top .5% of all podcasts globally.  She, along with In-N-Out Burger owner, Lynsi Snyder Ellingson, is also the founder of a 501c3, Slay Legal Aid, which provides legal aid to those in need.

Resources & Links:

Kate’s book “The D Word

Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective

Rebecca’s website

Rebecca’s book

Rebecca on Instagram

Episode Link:

https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-253-slay-the-bully-with-rebecca-zung/

 

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